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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2006, 08:46:09 AM »
Do you think where we get our identity from has an impact on what we do? I think it's a valid question.

I think if we get our identity from what we do rather than who we are then we can get lost in the "doing" and end up in a position where we end up asking the Lord to bless our plans rather than asking His will and being a part of His plans.

Being a musician and being a Christian doesn't mean we should be working on a CD, just as being a Christian doesn't mean we have to attend a bible college. We should work on a CD because He asked us to. Do you think that this is always the case? Do you see people asking the Lord to bless their plans or do you see them asking Him what His plans are?

Frankly, judging the fruit that I've seen, I have to say that most are asking the Lord to bless their plans.

We can waste our whole lives asking the Lord to bless our plans when really we need to know who we are from Him, so that we will see what His perfect will is in our lives.

When I was young I was told by leadership that young people need to go to bible college. I did. I left a secular college where I was studying software engineering to attend bible college. I ended up dropping out of bible college and returning to school ten years later to finish my software engineering degree.

I returned to school because I beleive He directed me there. I am in His will and His plans, not Him blessing my plans.

Another ridiculous perspective, i could say the same thing to all of these musicians, how do you know if God told you to play an instrument, or even play for a church.  Well the answer to that question is that it's that's person desire and in their hearts to do so.  THey have a love for music.  Why you do you make it seem that God is mean.  Of course you didn't say the words that God is mean but when you say weird things like God didn't tell you to do that or this, to most people who aren't mature Christians, that will run them away from God.  God sd that He will give you the desire of your heart.  God didn't literally say print out flyers at kinkos to advertise your church or program, but wisdom, common sense, knowledge, and understanding and knowing that it's not degrading God, will tell you that it is acceptable.  Gosh, who is your pastor?

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2006, 08:57:58 AM »
I am working on an album some will like it some will continue to reject it but as long as God is pleased with the message I deliver thats all that matters.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2006, 08:59:16 AM »
www.gotquestion.org    - this article will better support what i'm stating

Question:  "What is the difference between God's sovereign will and God's perfect will?"

 

Answer:  When speaking of God’s will, many people see three different aspects of it being revealed in the Bible. The first aspect of it is known as God’s decretive, sovereign, or hidden will. This is God’s "ultimate" will. This facet of God’s will comes out of the recognition of God’s sovereignty and the other aspects of God’s nature. This expression of God’s will focuses on the fact that God sovereignly ordains everything that comes to pass. In other words, there is nothing that happens that is outside of God’s sovereign will. This aspect of God’s will is seen in verses like Ephesians 1:11; where it tells us that God is the one “who works all things according to the counsel of His will” and Job 42:2, "I know that You can do everything, And that no purpose of Yours can be withheld from You.” This view of God’s will is based on the fact that because God is sovereign, His will can never be frustrated. Nothing happens that is beyond His control.

 

This understanding of His sovereign will does not imply that God causes everything to happen. Rather, it acknowledges that because He is sovereign, He must at least permit or allow whatever happens to happen. This aspect of God’s will acknowledges the fact that even when God passively permits things to happen, He must choose to permit them, because He always has the power and right to intervene. God can always decide to either permit or stop the actions and events of this world. Therefore, as He allows things to happen, He has “willed” them in this sense of the word.

 

While God’s sovereign will is often hidden from us until after it comes to pass, there is another aspect of His will that is plain to us. That aspect is what is known as His perceptive or revealed will. As the name implies, this facet of God’s will simply acknowledges that God has chosen to reveal some of what His will for us is in the Bible. The perceptive will of God is God’s declared will concerning what we should or should not do. For example, because of the revealed will of God, we can know that it is God’s will that we do not steal, that we love our enemies, that we repent of our sins, and that we be holy as He is holy. This expression of God’s will is revealed both in His Word as well as in our conscience, through which God has written His moral law upon the hearts of all men. The laws of God, whether found in Scripture or in our hearts, are binding upon us. We are accountable when we disobey them.

 

Understanding this aspect of God’s will acknowledges that while we have the power and ability to disobey God’s commands, we do not have the right to do so. Therefore, there is no excuse for our sin, and we cannot claim that by choosing to sin we are simply fulfilling God’s sovereign decree or will. Judas was fulfilling God’s sovereign will in betraying Christ, just as the Romans who crucified Him were. That does not justify their sins. They were no less evil or treacherous, and they were held accountable for their rejection of Christ (Acts 4:27-28). Even though in His sovereign will God allows or permits sin to happen, we are still accountable to Him for that sin.

 

The third aspect of God’s will that we see in the Bible is God’s permissive or perfect will. This facet of God’s will describes God’s attitude and defines what is pleasing to Him. For example, while it is clear that God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, it is also clear that He most surely wills or decrees their death. This expression of God’s will is revealed in the many verses of Scripture which indicate what God does and does not take pleasure in. For example, in 1 Timothy 2:4 we see that God“desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth,” and yet we know that God’s sovereign will is that “no one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44).

 

If we are not careful, it can become easy for Christians to become preoccupied or even obsessed with finding the “will” of God for our lives. However, if the will we are seeking is His secret, hidden, or decretive will - we are on a foolish quest. God has not chosen to reveal that aspect of His will for us. What we should seek to know is the perceptive or revealed will of God. The true mark of spirituality is when people desire to know and live according to the will of God as revealed in the Scripture, and that can be summarized as “be holy for I am Holy” (1 Peter 1:15-16). Our responsibility is to obey the revealed will of God and not to speculate on what His hidden will for us might be. While we should seek to be “led by the Holy Spirit,” we must never forget that the Holy Spirit is primarily leading us to righteousness and to being conformed into the image of Christ so that our lives will glorify God. God calls us to live our lives by every word that proceeds from His mouth.

 

Living according to His revealed will should be the chief aim or purpose of our lives. Romans 12:1-2 summarizes this truth as we are called to present our “bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.” To know the will of God we should immerse ourselves in the written Word of God, saturating our minds with it, and praying that the Holy Spirit will transform us through the renewing of our minds, so that the result is what is good, acceptable and perfect—the will of God.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2006, 09:03:26 AM »
  Gosh, who is your pastor?


Please, don't go there with this guy. Please, I beg of you.  :D
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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2006, 09:12:08 AM »
Please, don't go there with this guy. Please, I beg of you.  :D

LOL...  ;)

dfwkeys... I have to ask... do you hear anything from God for yourself or do you just hear it through other people because all you do is quote other people.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2006, 09:12:43 AM »
 ;D

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2006, 09:24:30 AM »
www.gotquestion.org    - this article will better support what i'm stating

Question:  "What is the difference between God's sovereign will and God's perfect will?"

If I wasn't at work I would give a better answer, but in some ways this is way off.. but that's how our enemy operates... he takes some scriptures, mixes it with lies, and then presents it as truth.

The guy who wrote this needs to read Galations 5 as well. It says quite a bit, but what sticks out is :

7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth?

The guy in this article says repenting makes you Holy?

For example, because of the revealed will of God, we can know that it is God’s will that we do not steal, that we love our enemies, that we repent of our sins, and that we be holy as He is holy.

Your righteousness is filthy rags to God. Don't you know that only the blood of Jesus makes us acceptable and holy?

This guy talked a lot about LAW and didn't mention a whole lot about GRACE and Jesus... beware... everything you read on the Internet is not good.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2006, 09:47:13 AM »
Well the topic wasn't about grace, but i will surely find the topic about grace, the topic was about the will of God... and he was giving examples... But you know what, making a cd is not going to send you to Hell, unless you believe that nonsense too.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2006, 09:49:22 AM »
On to a lighter note......


How is everyone's project coming along? ;D

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2006, 10:04:14 AM »
On to a lighter note......


How is everyone's project coming along? ;D

It's coming along just fine man.  It should drop Junetembuary 33rd.  'Yo Mama Owe Me 3$' is the title of my premier Gospel Ablum (intentional).  LGM, support a starving artist and cop that.   ;)  :D

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2006, 10:08:56 AM »
It's coming along just fine man.  It should drop Junetembuary 33rd.  'Yo Mama Owe Me 3$' is the title of my premier Gospel Ablum (intentional).  LGM, support a starving artist and cop that.   ;)  :D


ROTFLMBO.....Just let me know when it comes out...Looks like June to Febuary I should expect it

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2006, 10:17:18 AM »

ROTFLMBO.....Just let me know when it comes out...Looks like June to Febuary I should expect it

On the 33rd man.   8)

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2006, 10:19:09 AM »
It's coming along just fine man.  It should drop Junetembuary 33rd.  'Yo Mama Owe Me 3$' is the title of my premier Gospel Ablum (intentional).  LGM, support a starving artist and cop that.   ;)  :D

I like that title! Do it like Yo Moma

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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2006, 10:20:40 AM »
sorry, i hit post instead of preview

I like that title! Do it like

Yo Moma owe me 3$

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2006, 10:28:51 AM »
sorry, i hit post instead of preview

I like that title! Do it like

Yo Moma owe me 3$


Church folks would start complaining and what not so it's have to be something like:

Yo, Mother [insert name] owe me $3!

Think that's fly?

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2006, 10:32:40 AM »
Church folks would start complaining and what not so it's have to be something like:

Yo, Mother [insert name] owe me $3!

Think that's fly?
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That would be hot then throw me on the remix


Yo, Church Mother owe me 3 dollars

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2006, 10:40:26 AM »
Wwwooooow, here is an example of a thread gone wrong.  It was just a simple question.  Its not that deep.
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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2006, 10:47:36 AM »
Im working on a CD, it's tough been some set backs but all in all its going well, im a perfectionist when it comes to doing God's work so im getting everything tightened for release next year.

Pray much for me as I will be for all of our endeavors for Jesus.

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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2006, 10:50:17 AM »
Wwwooooow, here is an example of a thread gone wrong.  It was just a simple question.  Its not that deep.


That's what we've been trying to say.  :D
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Re: Are You Working on a CD???
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2006, 10:36:50 PM »
I hear you when it comes to God's commandment to praise Him, but I disagree with you on this point.  For all the quote / unquote gospel CDs out there, I don't believe that God gave His approval for each one.  Case in point:  Have you ever listened to "gospel cd" and it were as though the anointing of God was absent?  I mean, it was all about entertainment and no substance.  For example, Kirk Franklin's "Stomp - REMIX"  THe remix used a sample from the Funkadelics "One Nation Under A Groove."  It was so close, in fact, that G. Clinton receives royalties from the album.  Check it out.  As a matter of fact, last time I checked, George Clinton has'nt come down from the mothership yet.  In addition to that, the Stomp -Remix was ranked on both gospel and r&b charts.  How is God glorified in that.  If it's not anointed then God has not approved it.  The anointing of God is His stamp of approval and before you think it, God's anointing is more than just a feeling.

Let's also look at this from the standpoint of stewardship.  If God doesn't tell you to do a cd and you do it anyway, then you've not nisobeyed instructions, but you've also used kingdom resources / finances to complete a project contrary to the will of God.

In closing, I'm not saying not to praise God utilizing His gift of music in you.  We must keep in mind that every gift must be surrendered to God and used as He sees fit.  A person can be gifted, yet still out of the will of God.
I got you now yielded..and I agree...Your definitely right I believe on that part :) ;D :D
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