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Offline acts2-38

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is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« on: July 26, 2006, 11:39:12 PM »
is the major 7 and dominant7 the same chords? I was looking at the chords chart and I noticed that the fingering looked the same.
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2006, 11:48:34 PM »
MAJ7 - C-E-G-B
DOM7 - C-E-G-Bb
MIN7 - C-Eb-G-Bb
minMaj7 - C-Eb-G-B

I use the same fingering for all 4, but sometimes I'll vary it, depending on what was just played or what I'm about to play.

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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2006, 11:57:31 PM »
What B3 said.

One way to separate them in your ear is this:
maj7 chords want to "stay" (they are "release" chords)
dom7 chirds want to "go" somewhere else (they are "tension" chords) - in the case of Cdom7, it's likely you'll want to go to Fmaj7

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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2006, 12:01:08 AM »
Ok. I gotcha. But, look at the fingering in the Piano chords tab. you'll see what Im talking about
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2006, 12:50:43 PM »
A major 7th chord uses an added major 7th note:  C-E-G-B

A dominant 7th chord uses an added minor 7th note:  C-E-G-Bb
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2006, 01:02:38 PM »
Go here and you can see graphics of the chords:

http://piano.learngospelmusic.com/theorychords.php
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2006, 02:02:05 PM »
Ok, either Im crazy and cant see well or the c maj 7 and c dominant 7 have the same keys highlighted. I think Im a open up 2 windows and look at them both at the same time
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2006, 05:30:31 PM »
Ok, either Im crazy and cant see well or the c maj 7 and c dominant 7 have the same keys highlighted. I think Im a open up 2 windows and look at them both at the same time


Try lookin' at it like this:

The C Maj 7 chord is all white keys (I'm only using this for this chord example, it is NOT a general rule of thumb)  C-E-G-B


The C dom 7 chord has one black key C-E-G-Bb (which is your black key)



Again, we're just talkin' about this froma visual standpoint. For a hearing standpoint, go with what Elio stated.


I hope that helps a bit.
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2006, 05:39:19 PM »
Act2 is referring to the chord chart in LGM lessons area, both the Maj 7 and Dom 7 piano chart are showing the Dom7.  The Maj 7 piano chord chart is incorrect.

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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2006, 05:45:59 PM »
Act2 is referring to the chord chart in LGM lessons area, both the Maj 7 and Dom 7 piano chart are showing the Dom7.  The Maj 7 piano chord chart is incorrect.



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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2006, 07:41:01 PM »
Act2 is referring to the chord chart in LGM lessons area, both the Maj 7 and Dom 7 piano chart are showing the Dom7.  The Maj 7 piano chord chart is incorrect.



Thank you! thats what I meant. I guess I should have made myself a little more clear
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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 04:58:35 PM »
i just always think of maj7 as the III minor with that root's bass.
example  Cmaj7 is like an Eminor on the right hand and a C on the bass
             Ebmaj7 is like Gminor on the right hand and an Eb on the bass

or you can think of it like a V chord over the I bass
example Ebmaj7 would be like a Bb chord on the right hand and Eb bass
            Bbmaj7 would be like an F chord on the right hand and a Bb bass

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Re: is Cmaj7 and Cdom7 the same chord
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2006, 06:03:57 PM »
Sometimes its written like this C7. C7 chord is C E G Bb. But a CM7 chord is C E G B
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