Walk-ups and Walk Downs, can you tell me this?

[berbie]

When going from a one to a four or a five or when walking down to a one from a four or a five, I often run a blues scale. (single notes).  I would like to be able to walk down with chords. I wonder which chords correspond with the single notes of the blues scale.  Furthermore, when walking up or down using passing chords, do you follow the major, minor, minor, major major minor dimimished procedure?  If you are running the pentatonic scale with chords, what chords would you use?  (the key doesn't matter, I can transpose)
The chord names would help. (ex. 1maj9b5, 2minor7 etc.) I hope that this makes enough sense to give a proper answer.  If so, any help would be greatly appreciated. I will say that I have tried and used certain chords with the runs, but they often don't sound just right.

Thanks again,

Berbie

[diverse379]

I want to answer this I have to locate one of my old notebooks it has the exact thing you are looking for

[4hisglory]

I'm interested in this also

[diverse379]

These  concepts are very valuable to me and I am glad i found them they were in one of my music notebooks which I dont know why But I write stuff in them and some of it I never get to but this is some real deal stuff taught to me by the late Enos payne Both great Jazz musicians
and his late best  friend Wally. they died a year apart

Then I am going to give two contemporary walkups and walk downs that I use sometimes I learned these from studying jazz theory and one I got from Melvin Crispell

then I am going to give this chicago walkdown I saw which walks down to the four and the one that I use so you are getting a lot of info on this thread


wally's Walkuip  key of F
F/ACF
G/GC#F
Gb/BbDf
G/Abdf
C/Acf
C#/GBbE
D/ACF
E/GBbCE
F/ACDF

2-5 walk up   this was the first walk up to the 5 I ever learned  key of F
key of f
G/ABbDF
A/GCDf
Bb/FBbDf
C/BDf

This is a walkup to the four a little contemporary key of C
CG/BEB
DA/CFC
EB/DGD
FA/EAE
To walk down just go backwards but use a seventh shell in the left hand

walk down from the four  key of F ala Melvin
Bb/ABbDF
A/GCDf
G/FBbDf
F#/EbAbDbF   dont resolve unless you have to i let it hang for a while then cylce back into my song go into the D7 G-7 C7 Fmaj7 ending

This is one I used to do when I was doing stride it has an old time traditional feel

C/ACEb
B/AbBD
Bb/GBbDb
A/FAC
Ab/FAbB
G/EGBb
F/CFA

finally this is a nice walk down i saw on Gk  it walks down from the one to the four instead of going up to the four
I only used it once but it is nice
BbD/FBbD
F#Eb/F#BbEb
FD/ABDF
EbC#/F#BbEb


Here is the harmonized pentatonic Enos payne showed me this I loved the sound and used to play it a lot dont know why I stopped my playing has gone through a lot of transformations in the five years I have been playing

this is in Bbi stop at the Ab but you should repeat

Do these over Bb

BbAbCDF     Bb79
GBbCEb    F13
Bb/FAbBbDb
Bb/EbGAC
Bb/DbFGBb

I hope this helps somebody



I have presented different ideas in different keys
Thats how I learned i would learn things in different keys because i was too lazy to transpose so I would learn diffeerent moves in different keys so in Bb i would sound churchy in C i would sound contemporary in Ab i would sound contemporary

[berbie]

Hey thanks, diverse 379.  I am going to start working on those as soon as I get off the computer.  You gave me a lot to work on, and I see that i am going to enjoy the work and benefit from it.  Thanks again for taking the time out to do it.

Berbie

[T-Block]

Follow this link for a little 1-4 walk-up trick:  http://www.musicianslearningcenter.com/music/viewtopic.php?t=299&sid=f1cbd2d1eb2224d2b6abb1e2e842b419

Here are some more walk-ups. I'll do all of them in the key of C:

1-4 Walk-up

Theory explanation:

1 Major chord, root of the chord in the bass
b7 major chord, 3rd of the chord in the bass
1 Major chord, 3rd of the chord in the bass
4 Major chord, root of the chord in the bass

Example in C:

C / G-C-E (1)  C major chord
D / F-Bb-D (2)  Bb major chord
E / G-C-E (3)  C major chord
F / A-C-F (4)  F major chord


Another 1-4 Walk-up (using diminished chords as passing chords)

Theory explanation:

1 major chord, root of the chord in the bass
2 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
3 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
4 major chord, root of the chord in the bass

Example in C:

C / C-E-G (1) C major chord
D / G#-B-D-F (2) D diminished 7th
E / A#-C#-E-G (3) E diminished 7th
F / C-F-A (4) F major chord


3-6-2 Walk-up (using diminished chords as passing chords)

Key C LH/RH

Theory explanation (similar to progression above):

1 major chord, root of the chord in the bass
2 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
3 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
*4 minor chord, root of the chord in the bass 

Example in C (bold #'s in front represent scale degrees in the key of C):

(3) E / B-E-G# (1) E major chord
(#4) F# / C-D#-F#-A (2) F# diminished 7th
(#5) G# / D-F-G#-B  (3) G# diminished 7th
*to keep going, this is omitted
(6) A / E-A-C# (1) A major chord
(7) B / F-G#-B-D (2) B diminshed 7th
(#1) C# / G-A#-C#-E (3) C# diminished 7th
(2) D / A-D-F (4) D minor chord

*Missing/skipped chord: (6) A / E-A-C (4) A minor chord


6-2 Walk-down

Theory explanation:

6 sus4 chord, root of the chord in the bass
5 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
4 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
3 fully diminished chord, root of the chord in the bass
2 minor chord, root of the chord in the bass

Example in C:

A / E-A-D (6) A sus4 chord
G / E-G-A#-C# (5) G diminished 7th
F / F-G#-B-D (4) F diminished 7th
E / G-A#-C#-E (3) E diminished 7th
D / A-D-F (2) D minor

Those are just a few things I do.  Does anybody have any trouble understanding any of those?  Let me know, and I'll try to explain it better.

[diverse379]

drat foiled again

 

[T-Block]

drat foiled again

Well dang D, I'm sorry. 

[diverse379]

lol

[berbie]

Thanks to T-block also.  Man, you guys are something else.  I have learned so much from the postings. These postings exactly hit the spot.  I don't know exactly who is making LGM available, but whoever it is, and those who willingly give of their time and post do a great work.


Berbie