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Offline monalisa

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SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE B SCALE
« on: April 03, 2006, 12:29:53 AM »
trying to figure out b scale


b-
c#-
d#-
e-
f#-
g#
a#-
b

how do i put the chords with this scale and i know this may seems crazy but is c#-the same as Db
where is D#
g#
A# I REALLY DONT NO WHERE THE SHARP KEYS ARE LOCATED DTHE ONLY ONE I NO OF IS F#
IS THE SHARP KEYS ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING FLAT BECAUSE WHEN I PLAYED THE SCALE
THIS IS WHAT I GOT,JUST BYU WHAT I NO
B-Db-Eb-E-F#-Ab-Bb-B   SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDESTAND THE DIFFERENCE

THANKS ALOTS
MONALISA

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Re: SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE B SCALE
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 09:27:56 AM »
click this link: http://www.musicianslearningcenter.com/music/viewtopic.php?t=38 Also, sharps are located to the right and flats to the left.
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Re: SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE B SCALE
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2006, 11:15:00 AM »
To try and explain my way of thinking on this subject will be tuff but ill try.

Let's start with moving up one note to the key of C and start with the C scale. Once you are able to figure away to find a pattern for creating the C scale with numbers you will use the same concept in every key. Jot dwn each note while practicing this technique.

The C scale is C D  E F G A B C, to keep this basic.... all black notes are concidered flats or sharps. Also, this is a key to remember, if we start at C and move one note up to the black note...then that is called a half step. If we start from C and move 2 Notes, that is called a whole step. 1 step is a half step and 2 steps is a whole step.(Count every note when counting steps these include black and white keys. If we start at C and move up 2 whole steps we will end up on E natural. If we start on E and move up 3 whole steps and 1 half step, we will end up on B natural. (Never count the note you are on)

 Example: If we start from "D"and move up 1 half step which will be the black note it will be a sharp because we moved up. If we go down, well it becomes flat. So yes, a black note can have 2 names. Eb is D#  Bb is A# Db is C# because they are the same pitch. so on and so forth with the other black notes.

With the above info in proper perspective you will have all the wisdon and knowledge needed to create scales and chords in any key and this will make you want to break that transpose knob. (It stops your growth) People parish because of lack of knowledge but we also have to practice the knowledge. Rehearse is to play what you know over and over to perfect it but practice is to learn new exercises and songs etc.

Here it is:

Creation of a major scale.... Starting with C.

Formula is 2 whole notes 1 half note 3 whole notes 1 half note.

The way the works in first learning this you should be at the keyboard and have a pencil and paper.

The break down...Formula is 2 whole notes 1 half note 3 whole notes 1 half note

Starting at C because we want the C scale. Write the first note on the paper as it is number one. NOW, as you reach each destination per step write the notes down.

Next step is 2 whole note, there for.... because we are doing the C scale and we have written down our first note we are not going to count the C as one because we are down with C for now. The next 2 whole note steps will be our next 2 notes of the scale. 1whole noe is D and the next whole note is E.

Now we know we should have C D E written down on the paper.

The next step in the formula is 1 half step, not counting what has been counted but starting from the last note which is E and moving 1 half step up is F.

You should have C D E F.

The next step is 3 whole steps...starting on your last note written down but not counting it move 3 whole steps up and write down each 3 notes you land on in the count.

Answer is G A B so write down C D E F G A b .

Last but not least you have one more step which is 1 half step, remember the formula 2 whole notes 1 half note 3 whole notes 1 half note.

Start from the last note written down and count one half step and youll end on C.

Answer C D E F G A B C is the major scale, chords are derived from scales even though I dont know which comes first... the scale or the chord.

Db- does not make since to me... the negetive sign after the flat signifies flat also. So D- is the same as Db and Db- is a double flat.

Ok, peeps..... if you find holes in my story forgive me in advance and help a brother out.

Thanks for your time

Richard ;D

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Re: SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE B SCALE
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2006, 11:46:13 AM »
Ok folks let try a different approach based on the melody and not the chords.

Key of  B:   B,          c#,          d#,          E,          F#,          g#,          a#,          B
SCALE   :    1           2              3             4           5              6              7          8(1)
C
H               3           4              5              6          7              8              2          3
O
R                5          6               7              8          2              3             4          5
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 Chord           B           c#m,          d#m,       E           F#         g#m,        a#dim,    B major
    No.           1               2               3         4            5             6                7           1 


Ok first pick a key.  We will use the Key of B.  Then assign numbers to each degree of the scale as above.

Chords are made by starting on a note B, in this case, and playing every other note.  Look down  the chord chart above.  A ' B chord or the ONE(1) chord  is made by playing the 1st, 3rd and 5th note of the scale.   The E chord or Four(4) chord is played by playing the 4th, 6th, and 8th note of the scale.  The F# or Five(5) chord is played by playing the 5th, 7th, and 2nd note of the scale.   Many songs can be play with just those three chords, the 1, 4, and 5chords.  But we will let the melody of a song dictate the chord we choose.  Ok boys and girls, let play ' Yes Jesus loves me:

First play the melody note with the right hand.  And the chords with the left.  Look down the chord chart and pick a chord that contains the melody note.  Re-arrange the notes so that the melody is on top.


melody note:           5                       3   5                          6                        8
Lyric    :                Yes                   Jes - us                       Loves                   me
Chords:                B(1)                                                      E(4)
Progression
:
                              5                       3    1                        3                         2
                            Yes                    Jes - us                     Loves                    me
                            B( 1)                                                  F#(5)


                               5                       3    5                        6                         8
                             Yes                    Jes -us                      Loves                   me
                                1                                                      4


                               7                 6                 5     1              3             2             1
                             For               the               Bi - Ble             tells         me           so
                                                                        1                  5                           1




 Each melody note does not need a chord.  Some times you will play two or more melody         
 notes per chord.       
  So if you can play the melody.  Pick a scale and choose chords that contain the melody. 

 You will need to know your scales especialy the major scale.  The minor scale is an altered       
 major scale created by flating the third, six, and or seventh note of the major scale.

Once you know the scale, don't think A, B, C etc,   think 1, 2, 3 etc, in the key of B or what ever key you are using.  Now you are playing Music by the numbers.  The Nashville number
 system.

                                                                                         
                       
   God Bless you,
    MrTea
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